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    August 23, 2005

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    Janine

    Thanks for your comment Suzanne.

    And I'll repeat that while I agree that children should not receive inappropriate content, I don't agree that a ready-to-be-hacked "Do Not Email" registry containing only email addresses of children is the answer. It actually could cause more harm than good.

    Suzanne

    I like VR emails. I read them, and while I am not a large user of email campaigns, it helps me to understand the challenges of building an email promotions program.

    The biggest part of that is ensuring that the people receiving my emails actually WANT to be getting them. An email is different than a telemarketing call, in that there is no real labour cost after the first email is prepared, but the goodwill factor, for REAL companies, seems to me to be huge. I get about 25 emails per day where I have chosen to receive information or promotions, and I read them. The unsolicited ones that arrive, no matter how legitimate, are a time consuming, expensive inconvenience. Of course, most of them are not legitimate. Is this the real nature of this industry - scam artists and garbage-hawkers? I don't think that is what Vertical Response readers would want to see themselves as.

    So, with that reality, how can it possibly be argued that material inappropriate for children's eyes should be sent to them without restriction just because it causes an incovenience to companies?

    It can't be all left up to parents, or schools, or to the children themselves to learn how to be safe and free from disturbing and hurtful images and ideas. That's far too easy a cop-out.

    There are far, far greater freedom of speech concerns these days than the right to market addictions to children.

    Janine

    Josh, you raise interesting issues, but I fear you miss our point and maybe I wasn’t clear. Of course we here want to defend against porn materials being sent or made available to children. We just don’t think a registry is the answer.

    Now I know that you are an email marketer yourself, and a legitimate one as are all VR customers since we take a pretty strong stand against spam. But the law does not focus only on porn, it focuses also on other products, like the ones I outline, that many legitimate businesses sell. There are very few child-spam related issues with tobacco, wine and spirits products, especially since they are not delivered electronically as with porn. So we think it is also a mis-step to throw all these product categories into one ‘bucket’ alongside porn and even gambling.

    A small business, for example a winery, may have to take an extra step now to just ensure that no one has “mistakenly” put a child’s email address from these registries on their list. There is a cost associated with that, and more often than not they will come up with a very low match rate if any at all.

    There are many filtering and challenge-response tools that parents can use to help block emails. Perhaps these tools are more along the lines of an answer rather than a registry. And on one last note we hope that the security of the list in Utah is strong since so much data on children will now reside in one place.

    Josh Norman

    Janine,

    As one of the early adapters to Vertical Response and having sent millions of emails through your system, I know the value of keeping the list big. However, I think that sending pornographic material to children is a crime.

    Rich said that is the parents, not the government that is responsible for protecting their kids. What the heck do you think the parents are doing? They are electing officials that are trying to pass laws to protect their children. We wouldn't allow this type of marketing in print in our homes or schools, why should it be allowed to be sent to children through email?

    I love email marketing, but if we don't start somewhere trying to close out the filth that get to kids, nothing will be done. Can you tell that I am a parent? I am trying to take my responsibility seriously. Are you?

    Rich Ottum

    Janine:

    While the intent of such legislation is laudable, it is really not possible for regulators to enforce such efforts. Your statement of opposition is both valid and intelligent. In the long run, parents, not the government, are responsible for protecting their children.

    Sincerely,
    Rich

    Sarah Donnelly

    Thanks for the update and for your efforts to stop the madness. Cool blog! Keep up the good work.
    -Sarah

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