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February 23, 2009

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James Wiley

Marc,

Like your organization, we too find the current functionality frustrating. We have also found that manual "pushing" of data to Salesforce contacts only works sometimes; despite updating statistics, some users find that the contacts used in campaigns have no indication in Salesforce that they have even been sent emails, much less have opened or clicked them. This, of course, makes it impossible to run an accurate Email History Lead & Contact report and the like.

Thanks,

James

Marc Baizman

Richard,

Thanks for this post. This continues to be our main frustration with the product. Although the Salesforce integration and the reporting capabilities are top-notch, the "sick with the flu" scenario that Steve describes is all too common in real life.

The desired functionality is User A and User B have different Salesforce logins, but shared VR lists, emails, stats, etc.

I understand that architecture changes to VR are required to make this happen, and as an IT Director, am sympathetic to the effort required to make that change. However, it's something that our organization needs *yesterday*, and I suspect many others would find extremely useful too.

Richard Huffaker

Mike and Anne,

It was, up until very recently, quite easy to convert a standard VerticalResponse account to a Salesforce version. However, we changed the way lists are managed in the standard version of our account and have not yet made the same change in the Salesforce version. Once we do make that list management change within VR for Salesforce, it will be possible to easily convert accounts again. I don't have a time frame for this, though.

Richard Huffaker

Hi Steve,

You make some excellent points! With the standard version of our product you can create any old username you want and then everyone can share that account.

This leads to the question: why doesn't our Salesforce integration work this way?

The main reason is the way Salesforce handles log-ins for our application. They automatically take the personal email address from your profile and use that as your VerticalResponse username. Since our system (currently) only allows one username per account, this makes it impossible to associate a single VerticalResponse account with multiple Salesforce users - unless those multiple users change their personal email address to all match the single VerticalResponse username.

This is a limitation we hope to see addressed in the future. Sorry to be so vague with "the future" I just want to make sure you know this is very much on our radar.

Anne Siri

I have the exact same problem as Mike describes - I'm taking over the responsibility for our company's newsletter to clients and partners in my region, however I cannot see the info, lists and stats regarding the newsletters the guy who used to be responsible for this has sent. Any workarounds on this?

Stefan

I would like to be able view all users mailings in VR response.

Would like statistics to be pushed automatically but if that was not possible. Would like one user to be able to push back all users statistics.

Mike

Unfortunately no way to link an existing vertical response account to salesforce.com (at least your support told me that). Would be great if you could provide a way to covert a regular account into SF-enabled account.

gokubi

I love the Vertical Response product for Salesforce. I also love that Vertical Response has reduced rates for nonprofits. We recommend VR for most of the Salesforce-using nonprofits we work with.

But the biggest drawback is that Salesforce Users can't see the lists and sends of other Salesforce Users.

Here's a scenario:

* Barb is in charge of sending the monthly e-newsletter.
* She runs the report and adds the people to a Campaign in Salesforce.
* She creates the list in Vertical Response and tweaks the Salesforce email template.
* Then she goes home sick for a week with the flu.

The enewsletter is supposed to go out the next day, but it has to be started from scratch because no one can see the work she's done.

Salesforce doesn't work this way--we can use sharing rules and profiles to make data and process available to groups.

Does Vertical Response without Salesforce work this way? I suspect that in your full product team members can see each other's work. It's what people expect from business-focused systems.

It would be fabulous if you rearchitected your integration so that Users in the same Salesforce organization could share lists and sends.

Thanks!
Steve

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